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    i hate fish tanks.

    Post by reefer87 on Mon Nov 28, 2011 3:40 am

    I come home today and my tank is really low on water and like really low about a quarter of the tank is gone. Mind you I just did a water change yesterday. So I expect something failed with the overflow. Man was I wrong. I looked for about 30 mins trying to figure out were all the water had gone and I kicked of my flip flops and stepped on the soaking wet carpet. Still couldn't figure out were it was coming from. So I looked around some more and find that one of the corners of the sump had ruptured. And was the cause of the leak. Any ideas how this could have happened? So now I just got done putting the skimmer and everything back in the dt just to get back up and running. Now it's time to go to bed and work on it tomorrow after work. Thankfully nothing died.

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    Post by dwolson2 on Mon Nov 28, 2011 10:22 am

    What did. You do with it? Lol that sump lasted 2.5 tanks! You shouldn't have taken it apart.


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    Post by reefer87 on Mon Nov 28, 2011 10:42 am

    Lol. No choice it would fit.
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    Post by dwolson2 on Mon Nov 28, 2011 11:17 am

    It could have stuck out the back...


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    Post by reefer87 on Mon Nov 28, 2011 11:18 am

    No there is a center brace on the stand.
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    Post by sisterlimonpot on Mon Nov 28, 2011 12:57 pm

    Ahh. you got dw old sump? where exactly did it t spring a leak at?


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    Post by reefer87 on Mon Nov 28, 2011 12:59 pm

    One of the corners ruptured. It didn't split at the seam it looks like it was kicked.
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    Post by sisterlimonpot on Mon Nov 28, 2011 1:38 pm

    well you're not supposed to kick it to get it under the tank? Smile


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    Post by reefer87 on Mon Nov 28, 2011 1:39 pm

    Lol. I figured that's what caused it.
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    Post by nikecivic on Mon Nov 28, 2011 5:21 pm

    I think we have all had incidents with our tanks...whether its a flood or a crash where you lose all your corals! Consider yourself lucky as there was no livestock loss.


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    Post by reefer87 on Mon Nov 28, 2011 5:23 pm

    Agreed.
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    Post by sisterlimonpot on Mon Nov 28, 2011 5:26 pm

    nikecivic wrote:I think we have all had incidents with our tanks...whether its a flood or a crash where you lose all your corals! Consider yourself lucky as there was no livestock loss.
    Ah optimism, the cup...I mean the tank is half full. Pun intended Very Happy


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    Post by reefer87 on Mon Nov 28, 2011 5:34 pm

    Lol. It's all good now. For now I threw the skimmer back in the tank and all is well. I will look at repairing or making a New sump. Any comments or suggestions on a plywood sump. Back and sides plywood and front acrylic. I know you have to epoxy coat/paint the plywood. Anybody attempted this yet?
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    Post by dwolson2 on Mon Nov 28, 2011 5:35 pm

    You remember 2 weeks ago when I lost all my fish.... Lol


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    Re: i hate fish tanks.

    Post by clownfish14 on Mon Nov 28, 2011 5:35 pm

    just go buy a new glass tank from petco its like 20 bucks or so


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    Post by dwolson2 on Mon Nov 28, 2011 5:37 pm

    Glass is definitely the easiest. I have read one person making a plywood tank. It was a lot of work.


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    Post by reefer87 on Mon Nov 28, 2011 5:37 pm

    Aren't you supposed to be in school.

    But yeah that would work too. Can you adhere acrylic to glass for baffles?
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    Post by clownfish14 on Mon Nov 28, 2011 5:41 pm

    i am in school Twisted Evil and yes you can just use silicone


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    Post by dwolson2 on Mon Nov 28, 2011 5:42 pm

    Yes and no.
    It can be done, but it's not a perfect seal. It is ok for baffles in a sump, but you are better off buying glass.


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    Post by sisterlimonpot on Mon Nov 28, 2011 5:45 pm

    clownfish14 wrote:just go buy a new glass tank from petco its like 20 bucks or so
    that's a lot cheaper then making one out of plywood.


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    Post by dwolson2 on Mon Nov 28, 2011 5:53 pm

    I have some plywood if you decide to go that route. Give it to you for free too.


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    Post by reefer87 on Mon Nov 28, 2011 5:55 pm

    How thick is the plywood and how much do you have?
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    Post by dwolson2 on Mon Nov 28, 2011 5:57 pm

    6- 1/2 sheets, like 1/2" thick.


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    Post by nikecivic on Mon Nov 28, 2011 6:03 pm

    Ahh yes, I always worry about my tank when I leave for a trip hoping nothing major happens when I'm gone. Also, having a controller has eased my worries and eventually I want to use an ip camera for my tank. This hobby is too crazy!


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    Post by reefer87 on Mon Nov 28, 2011 6:03 pm

    Ok I will think of what all I need and compare prices between glass and plywood.
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    Post by dwolson2 on Mon Nov 28, 2011 6:05 pm

    nikecivic wrote:Ahh yes, I always worry about my tank when I leave for a trip hoping nothing major happens when I'm gone. Also, having a controller has eased my worries and eventually I want to use an ip camera for my tank. This hobby is too crazy!
    I know how you feel, i bought the controller just for this trip. I still have my worries though.


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    nikecivic wrote:Ahh yes, I always worry about my tank when I leave for a trip hoping nothing major happens when I'm gone. Also, having a controller has eased my worries and eventually I want to use an ip camera for my tank. This hobby is too crazy!
    I know how you feel, i bought the controller just for this trip. I still have my worries though.
    I know what you mean, I hid a few pennies in your tank... hopefully you find them before something bad happens....


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    Post by reefer87 on Mon Nov 28, 2011 6:14 pm

    That's messed up. At least he will have lively Lincolns in there.
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    sisterlimonpot wrote:
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    nikecivic wrote:Ahh yes, I always worry about my tank when I leave for a trip hoping nothing major happens when I'm gone. Also, having a controller has eased my worries and eventually I want to use an ip camera for my tank. This hobby is too crazy!
    I know how you feel, i bought the controller just for this trip. I still have my worries though.
    I know what you mean, I hid a few pennies in your tank... hopefully you find them before something bad happens....
    Just remember who watches your tank when you are on vacation.


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    Post by reefer87 on Mon Nov 28, 2011 6:17 pm

    If you don't find those pennies dwolson I will help you tear down Jimmy's tank. I have plenty of room in my house.
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    Post by dwolson2 on Mon Nov 28, 2011 6:19 pm

    You know, you could make a huge sump and set it to the side of the tank. Did you buy a new skimmer yet? That 250 from Bogdan?


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    Post by reefer87 on Mon Nov 28, 2011 6:20 pm

    No not yet. I'm glad I didn't. I don't have a sump right now to put it in.
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    Post by sisterlimonpot on Mon Nov 28, 2011 6:21 pm

    Not sure of the price savings of making a wooden sump, usually the cost savings comes from needing a huge 100+ gallon sump to offset what it would cost to have one made. if you want to see what you need to do check out this thread on RC It starts on post 185. You'll soon see that a glass tank from petco petsmart will be a lot cheaper.


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    Post by dwolson2 on Mon Nov 28, 2011 6:22 pm

    You can hang those on the back. That's how my 125 is on my box of rocks.


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    Ok cool thanks for the link.
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    Post by dwolson2 on Mon Nov 28, 2011 6:24 pm

    sisterlimonpot wrote:Not sure of the price savings of making a wooden sump, usually the cost savings comes from needing a huge 100+ gallon sump to offset what it would cost to have one made. if you want to see what you need to do check out this thread on RC It starts on post 185. You'll soon see that a glass tank from petco petsmart will be a lot cheaper.
    Unless he made a big sump(off to the side)


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    Post by fishfry on Tue Nov 29, 2011 1:03 am

    You've been having a run of bad luck lately. I have had my share, I had my rodi hooked directly to the tank and it was left on over night lowering my SG and flooding my appartment. Good thing I was on the first floor... it happens to all of us.
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    Post by reefer87 on Tue Nov 29, 2011 1:05 am

    O that sucks. Hope you didn't lose anything.

    I looked at that thread on RC and it looks like I will ne going with a glass tank. To Mich work for me.
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    Post by sisterlimonpot on Tue Nov 29, 2011 1:20 am

    Good choice,

    yeah there is a lot that can go wrong. especially if you don't seal it properly, then the wood starts to swell and a leak starts.


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    Post by bvysochin on Tue Nov 29, 2011 4:34 am

    Darren, we have a couple of old glass tanks that are approx. 15-20 gallons that you are welcome to.. it would at least get you by.. I am also picking up another acrylic sump tomorrow, with baffles and everything.. not sure on the size.. text me what size you are looking for.
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    Post by reefer87 on Tue Nov 29, 2011 11:04 am

    I will have to get the measurements again but I would like/prefer 20 gallons. The biggest issue is the stand has a front and rear support and not a lot of room to squeeze a tank in there. I practically need a shoehorn.
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    Post by sisterlimonpot on Tue Nov 29, 2011 3:44 pm

    what happened to the tank you won at the raffle?

    and there are ways to temporaraly remove the center brace while a tank is on it full pf water. I will send a link when I get back to work.


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    Post by clownfish14 on Tue Nov 29, 2011 4:08 pm

    The tank he won in the raffle had copper in it


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    Post by sisterlimonpot on Tue Nov 29, 2011 4:52 pm

    clean it... soak it in vinegar.


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    Post by reefer87 on Tue Nov 29, 2011 9:33 pm

    Will it take all of the copper out?
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    Post by clownfish14 on Tue Nov 29, 2011 9:39 pm

    I dont agree Jimmy it might get most of it out but i would feel better using a tank i know has never had it in there at all. Pluss a new tank is like 30 bucks so i wouldent even bother tryin to get the copper out


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    Post by dwolson2 on Tue Nov 29, 2011 10:56 pm

    Sayz the guy with no kids
    Isn't it a Fowlr tank anyway?


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    Post by clownfish14 on Tue Nov 29, 2011 11:11 pm

    How do u know i dont have a kid Laughing


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    Post by reefer87 on Tue Nov 29, 2011 11:24 pm

    No I have put some corals in.

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    Post by Gorgok on Wed Nov 30, 2011 12:36 am

    That's a myth, copper doesn't leech into the glass nor does it get absorbed in the seals. A good cleaning will get rid of it.

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